466 - al-'Abbas ibn Muhammad al-Duri informed us, saying: Yahya ibn Ma'in narrated to us, saying: Ghundar narrated to us, saying: Shu'bah narrated to us, saying: I heard Abu Ishaq narrating that he heard Ma'di Karib narrating [351] that 'Ali passed by a group of people gathered, and a man was speaking to them. He said: "Who is this?" They replied: "al-Hasan." He said: "The grinding of camels that have not been accustomed to grinding."