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Ithbāt al-Ḥadd by al-Dashtī — Edited by ‘Ādil Āl Ḥamdān
Volume 1 · Page 168

Translation · EN

He said: In the seventh heaven, over His Throne, with a limit.

Aḥmad said: This is how it is with us.

19- Al-Khallāl said: al-Ḥasan b. Ṣāliḥ al-ʿAṭṭār informed us, [9/b] Hārūn b. Yaʿqūb al-Hāshimī narrated to us, he said: I heard my father say: [We were] with Abū ʿAbd Allāh, and we asked him about the statement of Ibn al-Mubārak: He established Himself over the Throne with a limit.

He — meaning: Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal — said: This has supporting evidences from the Qurʾān in five places: {To Him ascends good speech} [Fāṭir: 10],

{Do you feel secure that He who is in the heaven} [al-Mulk: 16],

{The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him} [al-Maʿārij: 4] (1).

And Imam Aḥmad said previously: {Do they await but that God should come to them in canopies of clouds} [al-Baqara: 210],

{And your Lord comes, and the angels, rank upon rank} [al-Fajr: 22].

Meaning: These verses indicate that God, Mighty and Majestic, established Himself over His Throne

Notes

  • (1) Quoted by Ibn Taymiyya in Bayān Talbīs al-Jahmiyya (2/613-614) with a more complete wording than this: Al-Khallāl said: Al-Ḥasan b. Ṣāliḥ al-Aṭṭār informed us, Hārūn b. Yaʿqūb al-Hāshimī narrated to us, I heard my father (Yaʿqūb b. al-ʿAbbās) say: We were with Abū ʿAbd Allāh. He said: So we asked him about the statement of Ibn al-Mubārak: it was said to him: "How do we know our Lord?" He said: "In the seventh heaven, over His Throne, with Al-Ḥadd." So Aḥmad said: "Thus He established Himself over the Throne with Al-Ḥadd."

So we said to him: "What is the meaning of Ibn al-Mubārak's statement 'with Al-Ḥadd'?" He said: "I do not know it; but this has supporting evidences from the Qurʾān in five places: {To Him ascends good speech}, {Do you feel secure that He who is in the heaven}, {The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him}, and He is over the Throne and His knowledge is with everything." End quote.

His statement: "(I do not know it)" will be followed in the appendix of the book (p. 314) by Ibn Taymiyya's commentary on it.

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