870 - Abu Bakr al-Marwudhi informed us, saying: I said to Abu 'Abd Allah: 'A man who has a Qadari relative?' He said: 'Being a Qadari does not cast him out of Islam.' I said: 'Those [individuals] were not calling others to the doctrine of Qadar; but what about one who was learned and denied the knowledge [of the truth]?' He said: 'If he denies it, he has disbelieved.'