1125 - Abu Bakr informed us, saying: Abu 'Abd Allah narrated to us, saying: 'Abd Allah ibn Numayr narrated to us. Al-Maymuni also informed us, saying: Ibn Hanbal narrated to us, saying: Ibn Numayr narrated to us, from Ja'far al-Ahmar, who said: Mansur ibn al-Mu'tamir said regarding something: "I do not say what the misguided, innovated Murji'ah say."